tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post5772224265648801765..comments2023-04-04T03:36:39.078-05:00Comments on Coach Sal: More ControversyCoach Salhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13942541698409058923noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-65177216964046945162009-06-15T14:07:40.921-05:002009-06-15T14:07:40.921-05:00Hey V.O.G., I found you! I like your AA a whole l...Hey V.O.G., I found you! I like your AA a whole lot better than the existing one!! Hubby works for the United States Postal service and the way they jump through hoops for women and minorities turns the stomach.<br /><br />Rewarding the hard work employees do would just make so much more sense than promoting someone based on sex/color.janjanmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15390742086078397725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-43901046149130542162009-06-14T08:36:43.941-05:002009-06-14T08:36:43.941-05:00okay, you've had your vacation... get back to ...okay, you've had your vacation... get back to posting! LOL!<br /><br />Hope you guys had a great week @ PBCPete Goodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960622827231055584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-43963029143878188012009-06-04T07:03:13.237-05:002009-06-04T07:03:13.237-05:00My experience has been a little different growing ...My experience has been a little different growing up in the DC area, where then, it was 65% black (I think). There was no entitlement attitude (that I remember) because everyone was really intermingled. You were a person and if you excelled it was because you worked at it. Moving to SC was a different perspective for me because I had not been exposed to minorities that viewed themselves as a minority and therefore felt deprived. I think the black's degradation of himself has had it's effect on my own perception. Because he has expected less of himself, so have I. This is definitely a distinction I have observed being from and spending most of my life in the North.happyathomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06670437798155633878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-42936380602907180252009-06-03T22:22:40.003-05:002009-06-03T22:22:40.003-05:00The thought that immediately pops into my head whe...The thought that immediately pops into my head when I hear "Affirmative Action" is that I don't like it because it undermines the good things that are actually there in people of minority groups. To automatically give people jobs or spots in college (or whatever) just because they are black (or Asian or Indian, etc.) sends the message that people in that particular group don't have what it takes to succeed without government help. This is the same thing that I don't like about the Feminist movement. To scream and shout for special treatment just because you're a woman makes it sound like women are too dumb and incompetent to get what they want on their own. It's just one more way for minority groups to shoot themselves in the foot. They need to realize that they ARE smart and capable. I think people in minority groups are kept "down" by their own lack of confidence. They assume they can't do something, so they don't even try. (The ones that DO try, though, should be rewarded, but if they really are doing what they need to do, they shouldn't need help anyway.)<br /><br />Also, for people (anyone) to be truly successful, I think that they need to do the kind of struggling that builds character. If something is just handed to them, they have not learned the skills useful for getting somewhere in life. (I feel okay to say this because, I admit, I am a little spoiled myself in this regard, though not by the government.) As long as the government keeps giving people fish instead of teaching them to fish, the people will be lazy and won't appreciate what they have. They won't develop the qualities they need to help their own culture "evolve."<br /><br />However, it DOES feel unfair for a kid who really works hard in school to be kept out of a school he or she gains acceptance to (on his or her own merit) just because he or she can't afford it. This has nothing to do with race, though, other than the fact that, statistically, minority groups tend to be poorer. So, in that vein, I agree with you that economic situations should be a major factor in determining levels of governmental assistance. Really, I don't see why race should have anything to do with it. (After all, there are poor white kids too, and there is no reason why a black person couldn't be academically successful on his or her own.) I think it would also help to lessen discrimination if the government would stop looking at people in terms of race. Maybe then people would stop looking at THEMSELVES in terms of race.<br /><br />(That said, it is good to hold onto cultural traditions of one's own ethnicity. Different ethnicities ARE different culturally, but that should have absolutely nothing to do with their abilities to get into college or to get jobs.)beksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15724637942561747185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-86723252980677612272009-06-01T20:10:01.194-05:002009-06-01T20:10:01.194-05:00Hi Larry,
1. Thanks for the pre-camp installment...Hi Larry, <br /><br />1. Thanks for the pre-camp installment of "More Controversy." I was hoping it wouldn't be too long before I could get my Sal-Post fix. <br /><br />2. Did I invite you to join a buddy's FaceBook group (occasional superstar race card)... It is a place where this post would be PERFECT for discussion.<br /><br />3. You should join the Race Card group and post this... I'd love to see this discussion grow.<br /><br />finally... maybe "More Controversy" would be a great title change for your blog.Pete Goodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960622827231055584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-46159509495081123052009-06-01T14:42:53.288-05:002009-06-01T14:42:53.288-05:00I'm with you. It's definitely a complex situation...I'm with you. It's definitely a complex situation anytime race is involved, but I think in the world our kids is growing up in, race is less a factor than it used to be. That's not to say prejudice is dead by any means, just that most use different markers than skin color to form the prejudices these days. I think Obama himself said something that would show that he would also agree to an extent: <I>"I think that we should take into account white kids who have been disadvantaged and have grown up in poverty and shown themselves to have what it takes to succeed."</I> and then said something along the lines that he doesn't think his girls should get extra help because of their race as they have had plenty of open doors of opportunity. <br /><br />I think another interesting point is brought up by the comments on interracial marriages. Some of the thinking behind affirmative action, I think was that we could promote black kids to be leaders of the black community, Hispanic kids to leaders of the Hispanic community, etc. Which has produced some good results and very successful people. But in our culture, I don't know how much people define themselves by their race and feel an obligation strictly to people of their skin color (which I think is a sign of progress in our culture). So I think neighborhood should factor in as much as race, if not more. i.e. a kid who's parents have lived in a gang ridden neighborhood with poor schools should receive more consideration than a kid living in the suburbs in a good school district.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03369241753045956644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-41714109697057580672009-06-01T14:14:34.551-05:002009-06-01T14:14:34.551-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03369241753045956644noreply@blogger.com