tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post6989248122169733320..comments2023-04-04T03:36:39.078-05:00Comments on Coach Sal: Iowa RecapCoach Salhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13942541698409058923noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-1366626846381971122008-01-04T23:00:00.000-05:002008-01-04T23:00:00.000-05:00Nothing counts until South Carolina!That's when I ...Nothing counts until South Carolina!<BR/>That's when I get to vote.<BR/>I have picked every President since 1984 (Ronald Reagan x2, Bush 41) except for the Clinton Era. Also, Bush 43......<BR/>I'm a conservative to the core!<BR/>Huckabee is a lib in conser clothes.<BR/>I wish Fred would have shown up.<BR/>I'm watching Romney & McCain even thought they are almost as bad.<BR/>I don't want a lib in the WH....<BR/>America can't afford them...C. S. Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100284597852626105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-78958194000710236052008-01-04T12:50:00.000-05:002008-01-04T12:50:00.000-05:00Hmmm, I think you may be right about Obama represe...Hmmm, I think you may be right about Obama representing the future while Hilary represents the past (hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense).<BR/><BR/>If it's a choice between overcoming race issues or gender issues, I would definitely hope for race first. In a president, skin color makes absolutely no difference (unless there is a profound difference in cultural background, but I don't think that would really be an issue), but gender might make a difference. I do believe that woman can be great leaders, but women function differently than men. I would vote for a woman president (just not Hilary), but I think it would be something America would really have to adjust to, more so than to someone of a different race. I would much rather have Obama than Edwards (and I think the majority of Dems would probably agree with me).beksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15724637942561747185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-72886183323784207422008-01-04T12:12:00.000-05:002008-01-04T12:12:00.000-05:00On the race/gender thing, I think most people who ...On the race/gender thing, I think most people who support Obama or Edwards over Clinton don't care a whit that she's female; it's that she's Hillary Clinton that bugs them. Sterotypically you might expect older, stodgy, country-club Republicans to harbor gender bias (although I think that's not particularly true there, either--I'll bet they'd all vote for Maggie Thatcher), but not the younger, hipper crowd that is turning out on the dem side. I DO think, however that among those who want to make a "statement" about social change with their vote, the opportunity to vote for Obama as the first black candidate is far cooler than the chance to vote for the first woman, especially when he seems so forward-looking and she represents a return to the past in some ways. In a way, Obama represents the only candidate who could trump Hillary in the identity-politics game.<BR/><BR/>I read one blog months ago that predicted Edwards would eventually win the nomination, because in the privacy of the voting booth, more people would choose the white male. At the time I hoped that we as Americans were better than that. It's early yet, but it looks like we passed the first test. Likewise, I have heard people say in hushed tones that Hillary would win among minorities in the south because the Clintons (notably Bill) are more authentically "black" than Obama. Again, I think that's hogwash. While race is still somewhat of a factor for a fraction of voters, I'm hoping this is, at least for the most part, our first post-racial election.Coach Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942541698409058923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5724595763985149011.post-9129177387772899242008-01-04T11:57:00.000-05:002008-01-04T11:57:00.000-05:00Wow, I think I could actually follow all of that. ...Wow, I think I could actually follow all of that. ;)<BR/><BR/>As cool as it is that black Obama won in white Iowa, it is not surprising to me (once I thought about it) that Hilary would not do well there, since the Clintons seem to get a lot of support from the black population. Also, I think voters in general are so much readier for a black president than for a woman president. If any woman could do it, it would be Hilary, but her Iowa defeat (especially that she was beat out by not just one but TWO men) is a sign to me that maybe we can count on the chauvinists to knock her out (although it is really hard to tell just from one state).<BR/><BR/>I have to say, I was surprised at Huckabee's win. But, it does make the story that much more interesting. If Romney had won, I would be more apt to think that he could take the whole thing on the Republican side. But, the fact that he didn't shows me that anything is possible.<BR/><BR/>Well, I think the next time I see you, you will be crutch-less. I hope Monday comes soon for you. :)beksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15724637942561747185noreply@blogger.com